Over 1000 Raid National Guard Armory and no loot! Is this even possible still?

[phlawedJ10]

I have done over 1000 Raid National Guard Armory and have yet to see a loot. 350 of those are on one account. So does this mission have a loot or not? Right now its running like I have a better chance at the lotto than getting loot from this mission. Why show it has loot if it does not?

[cadavermaker]

I have done over 1000 Raid National Guard Armory and have yet to see a loot. 350 of those are on one account. So does this mission have a loot or not? Right now its running like I have a better chance at the lotto than getting loot from this mission. Why show it has loot if it does not?

I just worked on this last week. I got 125 tanks and only one drop of the surplus license, but no chopper. I waited a day, and did it about 40 more times for one, and got the chopper.

The drop rate is just that bad!

[phlawedJ10]

I could live with those odds. But, I am saying NOT 1 ONE UNO loot in over 350 tries on one character and about 600 tries on 3 other characters. They should at least just friggen give you one after every 200 tries or so lol:mad:

[nostrediciotttanta]

i have 47 tanks and two licences all i want are the 50 tanks maybe you are going about it the wrong way .... try to get tanks instead

[Dan the man]

Well since Saturday I have spent over 40,000 energy with no license. usually I get one about every 10,000, and before this drought the most I had gone was 25,000.

[nostrediciotttanta]

Well since Saturday I have spent over 40,000 energy with no license. usually I get one about every 10,000, and before this drought the most I had gone was 25,000.

i should add its the only two licenses i have ever seen as long as i have been playing i have never even seen a picture of one and did not know what the heck it was

[Dan the man]

Up to running the Raid the national guard armory 750 times and no license. Playdom needs to look into this because that is just too much without one dropping unless they decided to only allow so many to an account....

And if that is the case they should let the players know so we do waste our damn energy

[nostrediciotttanta]

The Chinook... like a cross between a Cadillac and a cargo ship. Perfect for hijacking in style!

You used 120 energy to complete the mission.
You also used 1 Military Surplus Dealer License in the job.
You gained 220 experience.
You gained 1 Boeing CH-47 Chinook.

i dont have gold on tanks yet lol like i said i just wanted the tank and i got another stupid license you have to set your jaw just right i guess

[Dan the man]

The Chinook... like a cross between a Cadillac and a cargo ship. Perfect for hijacking in style!

You used 120 energy to complete the mission.
You also used 1 Military Surplus Dealer License in the job.
You gained 220 experience.
You gained 1 Boeing CH-47 Chinook.

i dont have gold on tanks yet lol like i said i just wanted the tank and i got another stupid license you have to set your jaw just right i guess

Until I get another license I will stand by the belief they only give out so many... or they shut it down for certain accounts. It has been over a week, maybe more like 2 weeks with close to 120k spent without one.

[Dan the man]

Until I get another license I will stand by the belief they only give out so many... or they shut it down for certain accounts. It has been over a week, maybe more like 2 weeks with close to 120k spent without one.

Ok.. started getting them again.. a couple days ago and at the rate they used to be. Dont know if they fixed something or what, but if so, thank you

[praetorian1979]

I've been trying that mission since the License was created and I still havent gotten one.

[Redwinger]

I've been trying that mission since the License was created and I still havent gotten one.

it doesnt pay cash only the tank and exp.

[paulmine]

Up to running the Raid the national guard armory 750 times and no license. Playdom needs to look into this because that is just too much without one dropping unless they decided to only allow so many to an account....

And if that is the case they should let the players know so we do waste our damn energy

all missions with random loot such as this 1 have a random drop rate, some like that mission are just a very low % drop rate.
think of it like when spirited first came out. if u had 1% spirited how often would u actually get it. that doesn't mean 1 outta every 100 it's just that % chance u have 2 get it.



it doesnt pay cash only the tank and exp.

cash??? i didn't see him say anything about cash lol

[Old Timer]

I have an account I am doing this mission on since I hit the magic number by leveling myself in EE. I am 47% of the way through plat, did it 34 times and gotten 33 tanks and got 1 surplus license that did get me a chopper with it. Not sure that will help in your determining anything drop wise, but who knows. I am taking it slow since I have to kill myself so much to not level anymore.

[Dan the man]

all missions with random loot such as this 1 have a random drop rate, some like that mission are just a very low % drop rate.
think of it like when spirited first came out. if u had 1% spirited how often would u actually get it. that doesn't mean 1 outta every 100 it's just that % chance u have 2 get it.



so your telling me its set up at less that 1% drop rate? I am sorry. There hve been points where it wasn't working. I have been running this mission for a while now and most days 10,000 energy gets me 1 license. I am happy with that. Shoot I am happy getting 1 license every 20,000 energy. Now 750 tanks is 123,750 energy. Much more than the normal drop rate.

Now saying all that since that time it has gone back to roughly 10,000 energy. The funny thing is they could have come out and said, yes their was a problem and we fixed it. Then again it might have all been tied in with all these issues

[Old Timer]

Just finished up another one to plat, got 45 tanks and not one surplus license. The one I mentioned above is completed and never got another surplus license on it only tanks. These two accounts are both level 143.

[Dan the man]

Felt it was safe to run missions today so here goes

I ran the raid the national guard mission 211 times. I received 208 tanks and 3 licenses. Will keep updating this as I run them. Will be running this mission for a while unless they come out with some better defensive equipment I don't have.

[Dan the man]

Ran the Raid the National Guard Armory 113 times today. 112 tanks, 1 License.. and that license gave me a Chinook. So totals so far....

334 times ran
320 tanks
4 licenses.. and 1 Chinook

[Dan the man]

97 times
96 tanks
1 license. 1 Chinook

I am thinking its a 1% drop rate with about 50% chance of getting a Chinook

[paulmine]

so your telling me its set up at less that 1% drop rate? I am sorry. There hve been points where it wasn't working. I have been running this mission for a while now and most days 10,000 energy gets me 1 license. I am happy with that. Shoot I am happy getting 1 license every 20,000 energy. Now 750 tanks is 123,750 energy. Much more than the normal drop rate.

Now saying all that since that time it has gone back to roughly 10,000 energy. The funny thing is they could have come out and said, yes their was a problem and we fixed it. Then again it might have all been tied in with all these issues

wuz just using 1% as an example i have no idea what it is but random drop loot has a percentage drop. kinda like the dea agent. some ppl can get 1 fast and some ppl have 2 blow thru the mission a few thousand times. it works but the chance of getting the license is very slim since it is a percentage drop rate instead of getting it like every 100 times or something

[jackle]

106 missions
106 tanks
no military surplus bid certificate
no chopper yet

I think Dan is right, pays to many favor points!!!!!!!

[52ndState]

here's my story
549 missions
540 tanks
9 military surplus bid certificates
4 chinooks
so even when you get a certificate there's only a 50/50 chance of getting a chopper
if you think that's bad,try getting the get-away drivers,armoured cars etc for the 14fp Tax Day Heist mission.

[redeemer]

My worst account was 849 tanks, 3 licenses, 1 chinook. Maddening

[xxXK a t OXxx]

Well last week I got 1000 tanks on an account picked up 11 licenses too. So the loot drop is pretty terrible.

[jackle]

wow, that is wild. I got the get-away drivers ok after awhile, was stuck with two/three for a while then it gave up the last two on each one, am really struggling with red armoured trucks and ex-pres. mask , hoping to get military certificate so I can get a chopper but you answered my worries about that, figures, I want the 20 FP from that. thanks for leaving a message on this,

[jackle]

Dan. how in the world do you get so much energy to run that many missions? I know that I am pretty new to this game, cannot picture getting all that energy, would be happy as hell to get xtra energy, it is like watching water boil for me waiting for it to build up.

[Dan the man]

Dan. how in the world do you get so much energy to run that many missions? I know that I am pretty new to this game, cannot picture getting all that energy, would be happy as hell to get xtra energy, it is like watching water boil for me waiting for it to build up.


Well hmmm, I have a couple of friends who have lots of accounts and we trade energy. That is really the only way a rider can get any real energy. We don't have the high bounties others do to warrent a spot in their top mob.

[jackle]

thanks, quess I should just have patience til I get more time in the game and earn that xtra energy, starting to get really hooked on this game and have a lot of respect for the accounts that are set up nice, learning how much goes into it. thanks again man.

[adamgriffin2468]

It took me approximately 50k energy to get one license, the pilot was easy, but i have dumped about 10k already into the bootlegging and not one single insider and i have heard that the warrant drop is bad too. Read the letter i posted in this thread about the need to increase drop rates.