Hero Thread - Kitty Pryde

[Namikaze116]

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/kitty_zps582661c1.jpg


Kitty Pryde
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture27_zps37461bac.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture38_zpsa0115306.jpg Infiltrator - 33 http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/CPs_zps5aa666ab.jpg

Organization:X-Men

Passive: http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture29_zps29d61747.jpg Lockheed. Protected by a dragon friend. This means that when she is attacked there is a chance that Lockheed will come out and attack.

Team-up Bonuses:
Kitty Pryde / Colossus = X-Force, Hard and Soft (100 points).
Kitty Pryde / Black Cat = Cat Fight (50 points).
Also she gets X-Force (50 points) when teamed up with any of the X-Men members.
Kitty Pryde / Black Panther=Cat Fight (50 points).

Attacks:
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture11.jpg Level 1: Phased Attack. Single Target / Type: Unarmed Melee / Hit/Critical: 91%/16%
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture30_zpsa5385aa8.jpg Stealthy - Does not trigger counter attacks or protect abilities
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture31_zpsdc71f08b.jpg Phased - Becomes incorporeal, automatically dodging all attacks. Increased Damage on next attack. However it is removed after the next attack

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture11.jpg Level 2: Sneak Attack. Single Target / Type: Unarmed Melee / Hit/Critical: 91%/43%
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture33_zps62ec5abf.jpg Phased advantage - Deals extra damaged while phased.
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture32-1_zps15bb217f.jpg Deadly crits - Deals extra damage on critical hits.

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture13.jpg Level 6: Shadow Kick. Single Target / Type: Unarmed Melee / Hit/Critical: 91%/16%
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture34_zpsa69d461c.jpg Exposed - Defense reduced by 25%.
This move is also her counter move when combat reflex is activated.

Her first three moves are all unarmed melee attacks, which is why Momentum Generator (obtained in Phoenix’s premium Mission C6M6) is great for her.

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture21.jpg Level 9: Call Lockheed. Single Target/1 hit/Ranged Fire/Hit/Critical:91%/16%
Does not benefit from Phased,so it won’t do extra damage whilst Kitty is Phased.
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture30_zpsa5385aa8.jpg Stealthy - Does not trigger counter attacks or Protect abilities
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture35_zps285bf57e.jpg Burning - Has a 50% chance to apply burning.

Alternate Costume:
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture28-1_zps54967941.jpg
Cost: http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/Scrapper_zps17d84429.jpg Scrapper - 45 http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/CPs_zps5aa666ab.jpg/http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture38_zpsa0115306.jpg Infiltrator - 32 http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/CPs_zps5aa666ab.jpg

Notes:
As a scrapper, she is harder to use than her infiltrator self. Because her attack timing or order can be messed up.
She starts off with a good amount of stamina, but her L1 attack is a bit costly.
Her alternate costumes now allow Kitty to start a fight with Phased already active and also a new passive called http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture37_zpscd5686fb.jpg "Strike from the Shadows" which gives her the ability to counter all attacks for the first two rounds of the fight.The counter can be very helpful considering that she counters with Sneak attack,so she does quite alot of damage.
In her alternate costume,if her turn is before the enemy's,she can recharge her stamina and still remain phased.
In her infiltrator alternate suit once she's attacked by a tactician she can counter twice (three times if the http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture29_zps29d61747.jpg Lockheed passive triggers). However this only happens for as long as http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/namikaze116/NewPicture37_zpscd5686fb.jpg Strike from the Shadows lasts.

Team-up Suggestions:
Phoenix makes a great teammate when she is phased. If it is timed perfectly, it works like this: Kitty phases, Phoenix uses mindlink on Kitty. Perfect tank. Next round she is unable to phase so she needs protection, agent uses Paladin Array for that round.
Colossus can be used as well, when Kitty's un-phased he can use Steel Curtain. This combination works better with Colossus' new costumes.Also,she can Shadow Kick enemies as a set-up for him to use Decimate in his next turn.

Iso-8 Suggestions:
Powerful (purple) isos work great on her especially when using her L1 and L2 attacks.
Iso help obtained from Cozanostraa’s guide: http://forum.playdom.com/showthread.php?126207-My-opinion-for-isos-on-all-heroes.

Team up bonuses from Zachriel’s guide: http://forum.playdom.com/showthread.php?86397-Heroes-Team-Up-Bonuses.

Previous Kitty Pryde Thread: http://forum.playdom.com/showthread.php?88867-The-Kitty-Pryde-Thread.

Team up suggestions and Note help came from Aneste. Feel free to comment on what could be added.

[Flinx]

I'm guessing she will get Cat Fight with Black Panther as well (seeing as Black Cat and Black Panther get it together...)

[Javster]

I'm guessing she will get Cat Fight with Black Panther as well (seeing as Black Cat and Black Panther get it together...)
I believe she does.

[waspenterprise]

The phoenix mind link combo is awesome, i do it all the time

[melanthios]

I actually love Scrapper Kitty and use her all the time. Much prefer her over the infiltrator version,

[Namikaze116]

I actually love Scrapper Kitty and use her all the time. Much prefer her over the infiltrator version,Damage-wise she could be considered a better inf, since her L1 is a set-up for her L2. Scrappers use their L1 twice in their turn.I don't have her scrapper suit but I'd imagine phased would fade before you could use her L2 attack for more damage.Also she can counter with Shadow kick and debuff the enemy's defense by 25%.In her scrapper suit you'd actually have to use a turn to do so.

[endymion201]

Kitty's double strike is her L3 move (Shadow Kick), which I find amusing. For some reason, I prefer her as a Scrapper over Infiltrator :D

[Olyght]

I don't think Kitty use's her lvl 1 for her scrapper bonus, not got the scrapper outfit, but her counters and coord attacks are a non-phased-breaking shadow kick (lvl 6), so assumed scrapper would be the same.

I appear to have been cofirmed and ninja'd in one swift go... lol.

[melanthios]

Damage-wise she could be considered a better inf, since her L1 is a set-up for her L2. Scrappers use their L1 twice in their turn.I don't have her scrapper suit but I'd imagine phased would fade before you could use her L2 attack for more damage.Also she can counter with Shadow kick and debuff the enemy's defense by 25%.In her scrapper suit you'd actually have to use a turn to do so.

Kitty's bonus is shadow kick -- not phased attack. A lot of times, she crit hits with the scrapper bonus, too.

Also, scrapper bonus attacks do NOT affect phased status. So if she double attacks (or does a coordinated attack) with shadow kick, she stays phased.

[PGNFail]

Kitty's a great, cheap character. :)

Btw, this thread needs to be edited with her new uniform update. She now starts out phased w/counter attack. Sounds pretty useful, but I'm still debating whether to get it.

[Flinx]

Also needs to be edited to list Black Panther under Cat Fight.

[Namikaze116]

Kitty's a great, cheap character. :)

Btw, this thread needs to be edited with her new uniform update. She now starts out phased w/counter attack. Sounds pretty useful, but I'm still debating whether to get it.


Also needs to be edited to list Black Panther under Cat Fight.
Thanks for reminding me,the changes have been made.

I bought her infil suit today and have only done a few fights with it,but from what I saw, starting with Phased may not be a good thing all the time,especially if she gets the first turn.The counter is still great though.

[Flinx]

Thanks for reminding me,the changes have been made.

I bought her infil suit today and have only done a few fights with it,but from what I saw, starting with Phased may not be a good thing all the time,especially if she gets the first turn.The counter is still great though.

I coll Lockheed on her first turn, then Recover Stamina on second turn, then sneak attack on third turn. (The recover Stamina is just to waste a turn... You can also have her use a healing item on a teammate if necessary.

[endymion201]

With her new upgrade, using her in pvp can be more fun :)

[Heirumaru2286]

I believe she does.

She does, but it says "Bonus for bring Black Cat, and Kitty Pride", in the description lol

[Heirumaru2286]

Shadowcast KP is so freakin' BEAST! I like using her, and Storm together.

Mind Link is ok, but I still like the shroud, since it gives her an extra layer of Evasion.

[the_hunter]

i think mockingbird is great for her partner. critcal intel and her L1 makes sneak attack real deadly. kitty can also inflicts burning and exposed.

[melanthios]

My scrapper Kitty is now so badass and near unstoppable. Holy crap. Her counter is AMAZING and the fact she starts phased is such a bonus.

[є ∂ є n]

Kitty's a great, cheap character. :)

Btw, this thread needs to be edited with her new uniform update. She now starts out phased w/counter attack. Sounds pretty useful, but I'm still debating whether to get it.She is not cheap! Her regular unlock + alternate scrapper uniform costed around 80 CP. :(

[Namikaze116]

She is not cheap! Her regular unlock + alternate scrapper uniform costed around 80 CP. :(If you look at it that way, then yes she's expensive,but she's still an effective infil with or without her alt costume, so it's your choice if you're willing to spend the CP.Epic boss farming hasn't let anyone down yet, just saying....

[Namikaze116]

I coll Lockheed on her first turn, then Recover Stamina on second turn, then sneak attack on third turn. (The recover Stamina is just to waste a turn... You can also have her use a healing item on a teammate if necessary.Thanks for the tip,can't believe I missed that,will be added to the OP.

[drakstar]

A question about the new skills: As infiltrator if kitty get a hit from a tactician or if kitty got combat reflexes, she should perform a double counter attack right? one for from the shadows skill and the other from combat reflexes. its a bug or something?

[the_hunter]

A question about the new skills: As infiltrator if kitty get a hit from a tactician or if kitty got combat reflexes, she should perform a double counter attack right? one for from the shadows skill and the other from combat reflexes. its a bug or something?
nope can't double counter with shadow kick, but she does can double counter if lockheed triggered.

anyway, who wouldn;t love her when they see this numbers? :p.
opponent debuff: weak points, exposed
kitty buff: unstopable x2 (the blkaster iron man allow my agent to double momgen her)

http://i.imgur.com/doTd6.jpg?9475

[є ∂ є n]

If you look at it that way, then yes she's expensive,but she's still an effective infil with or without her alt costume, so it's your choice if you're willing to spend the CP.Epic boss farming hasn't let anyone down yet, just saying....And I already have her, so get off my back. :)


Anyone else notice that Lockheed absolutely sucks at protecting her? Like he pops up and shoots enemies once in a full moon.

[Namikaze116]

And I already have her, so get off my back. :)


Anyone else notice that Lockheed absolutely sucks at protecting her? Like he pops up and shoots enemies once in a full moon.It depends on luck, it happens frequently enough for me,but I think making him protect more when she already got this great suit would make her too good for her cost.

[Yaab1]

Yeah, 2 counters in a row, with burning and exposing is too much for your enemy!

I am a fan of Kitty, since I started the game I got her ASAP, and then paired her up with Phoenix as soon as I saw the combo.
(I was Level 20-ish)...
Breezed thru the game since then.

[є ∂ є n]

It depends on luck, it happens frequently enough for me,but I think making him protect more when she already got this great suit would make her too good for her cost.Actually, I don't think so. It depends on the percentage encoded for it to activate, and my luck has nothing to do with it, considering that I've used her ever since Lv1 for every single battle including many PvP battles...

I mean I'd be okay if it was 35% protect rather than 15%, since her attacks are weak anyway (and all of her counters are Shadow Kick...) and Lockheed's Burn effect is more useful. But seriously, I am betting you the chance to activate it is 15% or lower.

[Flinx]

The chance I have seen listed was 10% (the person who told my it was just a forum member though, so I don't know where he got that number from, nor how reliable it is)

[є ∂ є n]

Oh, Lockheed. Such a faithful and loyal companion. Coming to my rescue when I'm being mauled to death... 10% of the time. I mean, maybe the other 9 attacks won't kill me.

I think he's close or exact.

[Flinx]

Oh, Lockheed. Such a faithful and loyal companion. Coming to my rescue when I'm being mauled to death... 10% of the time. I mean, maybe the other 9 attacks won't kill me.

I think he's close or exact.lol

Yeah, 10% feels about right to me as well.

[Gold_Member]

So down to the wire ?? Scrapper or Infiltrator????

I just got the Infiltrator But she is still lvl 2.......maybe I will try her In the morning,..

These are the people I see that can kill her easy.......DD, Spider-man, Spider-woman,, I am thinking about going scrapper too....love her so much.....But Colossus first.....


How effective is the scrapper uniform?? I mean there are alot better scrappers in the game btw..like hulk and DD.. And for pvp I mostly see spidy as an Infiltrator...And H.eyes takes him out without a problem.....lol

[Limeade]

That's what I'd like to know, too. Scrapper or Infiltrator. I'm leaning toward Scrapper since Infiltrator is a poor class in general right now and Scrappers have their 2x attack ability.

Would like to know what others think of Scrapper vs. Infi Kitty?

[Flinx]

That's what I'd like to know, too. Scrapper or Infiltrator. I'm leaning toward Scrapper since Infiltrator is a poor class in general right now and Scrappers have their 2x attack ability.

Would like to know what others think of Scrapper vs. Infi Kitty?

lol, Scrappers only have their 2 x attack ability if there are Infiltrators out there for them to hit. On the other hand, Bruisers crush scrappers, and I see alot more Bruisers than I do Infiltrators (or Scrappers for that matter.)

I personally use Infiltrator Kitty, because there are alot of Tacts being played right now, and even though the bonus isn't the best, it is still better than a penalty.

[Limeade]

Ah, it sounds like you are speaking with PvP in mind. I was only thinking about Kitty Scrapper vs. Infi in PvE. I don't mess around with PvP.

[Namikaze116]

Ah, it sounds like you are speaking with PvP in mind. I was only thinking about Kitty Scrapper vs. Infi in PvE. I don't mess around with PvP.I don't PVP either but I can only speak for inf Kitty.Kitty to me is a great infil, I use her more than I do Spidey that was the case even before I got her new suit.Her exposed debuff can be really helpful especially when using her with Colossus,he will just literally decimate everything without using one of his turns to put 'exposed' on an enemy.When she's buffed with just Offensive Accelerator,she OHKOs most tacticians or at least takes out the majority of their HP (Imagine if Momentum Gen was used on her as well in a boss fight) and her new suit benefits the whole team as it makes waves easier to kill off.

[Xiyon]

Does Infiltrator Shadowcat Kitty Pryde's Combat Awareness stack with her Strike From the Shadows passive, giving her double counters?

[Flinx]

Does Infiltrator Shadowcat Kitty Pryde's Combat Awareness stack with her Strike From the Shadows passive, giving her double counters?
No.

[rjbadz923]

which of kittys 2 classes is more effective? infiltrator or scrapper

[Flinx]

which of kittys 2 classes is more effective? infiltrator or scrapper
I personally prefer Infiltrator. I have no real solid reason why.

[Namikaze116]

which of kittys 2 classes is more effective? infiltrator or scrapperI also prefer her as an infiltrator.There are no weak scrappers except for Wolvie, but I think she's really the 2nd strongest inil (I've had the pleasure of teaming up with an L9 BC and I was thoroughly impressed with her strength) and the most elusive (once Spidey is hit spider sense wears off,whereas in Kitty's case no matter how many times she's hit, Phased will remain).

[melanthios]

Much prefer her as a scrapper. The double attacks are fantastic in either PvE OR PvP (take that, Spider-Man!), and her Strike from the Shadows does the same thing as Infiltrator's combat awareness for 3 rounds so I definitely give the scrapper one the edge over the infiltrator.

[Flinx]

Much prefer her as a scrapper. The double attacks are fantastic in either PvE OR PvP (take that, Spider-Man!), and her Strike from the Shadows does the same thing as Infiltrator's combat awareness for 3 rounds so I definitely give the scrapper one the edge over the infiltrator.

The problem is, I rarely run into infiltrators in PvP at my level. On the other hand, probably 75% of groups I run into have tact's, and probably 33%-50% of groups I run into have bruisers.

[daponster]

Guys, am I missing something? Isn't the new uniform a huge waste if you have to 'recharge' to keep the phased??

[Namikaze116]

Guys, am I missing something? Isn't the new uniform a huge waste if you have to 'recharge' to keep the phased??Nope,If you have her at L9 she can just use Lockheed for 1 turn,then recharge/Sneak Attack.Plus her counter won't make her un-phase.

[daponster]

Nope,If you have her at L9 she can just use Lockheed for 1 turn,then recharge/Sneak Attack.Plus her counter won't make her un-phase.

Oh I see, thanks! Mine is only L2 right now. I suppose I'll get the new uniform them :)

[kotsin]

Just recruited Kitty and bought her alternate scrapper costume.

I wanted to try her out as a scrapper too.

[daponster]

Just recruited Kitty and bought her alternate scrapper costume.

I wanted to try her out as a scrapper too.

I'd love to have her as a scrapper but I'd be too unbalanced lol, too many scrappers already with colossus converted

[Namikaze116]

I'd love to have her as a scrapper but I'd be too unbalanced lol, too many scrappers already with colossus convertedYou can always switch back to the original class,so there's no real need to fear/worry about imbalance.

[daponster]

You can always switch back to the original class,so there's no real need to fear/worry about imbalance.

Yes but I'm far from getting all heroes, so I'm getting only 1 alt at a time. And I'll be using the alt costumes all the time since they are better than originals. So not doing any switching

[Iron]

Hi all, haven't used kitty pryde much, with her phased ability, and her new costume, what is the best way to utilize it? I only have her first two moves unlocked but it seems only her level 9 move (call lockheed), seems to not remove the phased. So assuming you have all levels unlocked, just use lockheed for the first 3 rounds?

Kind of a noob question i know, but just wanted to clear it up,

[Flinx]

Hi all, haven't used kitty pryde much, with her phased ability, and her new costume, what is the best way to utilize it? I only have her first two moves unlocked but it seems only her level 9 move (call lockheed), seems to not remove the phased. So assuming you have all levels unlocked, just use lockheed for the first 3 rounds?

Kind of a noob question i know, but just wanted to clear it up,
Sadly, it isn't that easy, because her level 9 has a cooldown. What I usually do is Call Lockheed on her first turn, recover stamina on her second turn, and Sneak attack on her third turn. (Oh, and I use a gamma booster on her asap, and Phoenix's Mind link on her)

[Iron]

Oh right ok, thanks for helping out, as useful an ability as phased is, seems as though it comes with a price, or say, some cons

[itMFtis]

You can also use items without coming out of phased (assuming PvE). Either toss some damaging AoE on the enemies, or buff up your own characters.

[megatape4]

Does kitty pryde's shadowcat infiltrator costume counterattack twice or once if she gets attacked by a tactician?

Sorry if this was answered before but I couldn't find any info about this in the kitty pryde or costume threads.

[Namikaze116]

Does kitty pryde's shadowcat infiltrator costume counterattack twice or once if she gets attacked by a tactician?

Sorry if this was answered before but I couldn't find any info about this in the kitty pryde or costume threads.Once,the only way it would counter twice is if the Lockheed passive activates and he comes out to attack.

[FallenLegend]

I just bought her and wow she is great!

[intopsycho]

Do you guys think that if strike from the shadows become a passive without turn limit, she would be too OP?
I think that would made her so more useful =/

[Flinx]

Do you guys think that if strike from the shadows become a passive without turn limit, she would be too OP?
I think that would made her so more useful =/
Yeah, I think it would be to powerful... But she is my favorite Hero, so I don't mind :D

[intopsycho]

Yeah, I think it would be to powerful... But she is my favorite Hero, so I don't mind :D

Kinda bothers me that she can only counter for three turns without a tactician in the other team. For PvP it's ok, battles aren't that long usually. But in PvE we have longer battles and all...
Well, Kitty is a pretty good character on the comics. Never forgot that touching conversations when she told Storm she can't stand her Mohawk. lol

[Flinx]

Kinda bothers me that she can only counter for three turns without a tactician in the other team. For PvP it's ok, battles aren't that long usually. But in PvE we have longer battles and all...
Well, Kitty is a pretty good character on the comics. Never forgot that touching conversations when she tells Storm she can't stand her Mohawk. lol

In PvE you can always use those annoying Counter Strikes that we keep getting on roulettes on her..

[intopsycho]

In PvE you can always use those annoying Counter Strikes that we keep getting on roulettes on her..

Using them makes it less frustrating when you receive them on the roulette? lol
But, yeah, you are right. Thanks.

[Whistend]

It seems Sonic Fist's Seesmic Feedback counts as "attacking" for kitty, causing her to lose the phase buff :(. Is this intentional or is it a bug?

[myk_h]

how about QJ? does that use "1turn" of Phase?

p.s. thanks for the confirmation that Seismic Feedback cancels the Phase Buff
(maybe this was what happened to me last night - thought it was a bug which removes Phase after 1 turn)

[Flinx]

how about QJ? does that use "1turn" of Phase?

No.

[Eldenfirefly]

Its kinda ironic, but if Emma Frost and Cap A becomes prevalent in PVP, we may see more Kitties popping up in PVP as a counter to them in the metagame.

[Surging Chaos]

Its kinda ironic, but if Emma Frost and Cap A becomes prevalent in PVP, we may see more Kitties popping up in PVP as a counter to them in the metagame.

I have been using Kitty heavily in PvP now ever since I got the Momentum Generator, and she is awesome. I also got the Shadowcat costume and I would easily say the purchase is worth it. Kitty has quickly become one of my favorite heroes!

Kitty is a great answer to Cap, but Emma has been a big problem because she keeps tanking Kitty jacked up with MomGen buffs. I haven't had enough experience yet against Emma (only about 3-4 matches), but I've beaten her every time so far because my Mr. Fantastic/Kitty team just happens to do well against her (Bifurcator wrecks Emma). It takes a lot of effort to take down Emma, even without Agent support.

[Chew Toy]

She is charming for some reason and not bad in pvp but scrapper agent is a danger and they are becoming more popular lately

[Surging Chaos]

She is charming for some reason and not bad in pvp but scrapper agent is a danger and they are becoming more popular lately

Do you have the Shadowcat costume? If so, it helps a lot against scrappers since you start out the fight phased.

[Chew Toy]

Do you have the Shadowcat costume? If so, it helps a lot against scrappers since you start out the fight phased.

yes I have the costume but I don't play her myself because she is a joke when AI control her.

[Arnster]

can anyone pm me or tell me what is a good strategy for kitty please? she is a pain in the butt for capt (her alt custom that is), she is basically untouchable for the first 3 rounds and also where can i get this momentum generator and how much does it cost?

[Namikaze116]

can anyone pm me or tell me what is a good strategy for kitty please? she is a pain in the butt for capt (her alt custom that is), she is basically untouchable for the first 3 rounds and also where can i get this momentum generator and how much does it cost?Basically you can just use her L9 or her L6 attack before using Sneak attack and losing Phased status.There isn't much to it strategy-wise.

As for MG it comes from the roulette in Phoenix's premium mission.It's recently been nerfed and I haven't used it in a while so I can't know it's real value at this point in time.

[Arnster]

so when she lose the phased status, does she still counter everything on the first 3 rounds?

[Namikaze116]

so when she lose the phased status, does she still counter everything on the first 3 rounds?Yea.

[Surging Chaos]

Is there a reason why Sneak Attack isn't a stealthy move? It seems completely unintuitive given that the name of the move is SNEAK ATTACK.

[Namikaze116]

Is there a reason why Sneak Attack isn't a stealthy move? It seems completely unintuitive given that the name of the move is SNEAK ATTACK.Lol true it really should be stealthy.

[Otherwise]

Alright, I might consider caving and saving for Kitty's Shadowcat.

I recruited Phoenix for the SpecOps. She's not level 6 yet because she frankly never stood out to me as a particularly useful character, but I figure she might warrant leveling if I can start to get the hang of the better combinations for Mind Link.

So now to the point: Mind Link + Kitty is supposed to be a great Cap killer combination but frankly as it is I'm already using what's supposed to be a good one: Spidey+Emma. I'd be completely open to trying something new if it weren't for the fact that this seems to have most of the weaknesses of my current team without a decent upside. Yeah Kitty can protect from single-target attacks, auto-dodge, and counter for the first three turns and Phoenix doesn't have trouble hitting people behind Cap's shield, but what about after? Apparently both characters are about as squishy as you can get, and from what I've seen Phoenix's Psi-Blast has pretty lackluster damage if not facing a Bruiser. How is Kitty's? Can you realistically expect to get enough damage output through her counterattacks to make up for the fact that she's basically sitting there looking pretty for three turns? Just how vulnerable are you to AOEs? Emma seems to be particularly fond of targeting Blaster Phoenix with Psychic Taps that can't be negated; am I forced to get her Infiltrator suit as well just to keep my offense from going down the tube? How dependent is this team on Agent buffs and attacks with stealthy weapons?

Not to mention what you're giving up: general immunity to debuffs for 2/3 of your team, reliably heavy - if situational - Psychic damage, extra turns and significant Evasion boost via Spider-Sense, guaranteed ability to negate target Evasion via Web Shot+Web Slingshot, roughly doubled damage with Great Power, etc.

[Eldenfirefly]

I use Shadowcat Kitty offensively. I don't let her sit there for 3 rounds unless I am facing some truely horrifying skewed team with ridiculous attack bonuses. Put a digital decoy on your agent. Then use it. It protects the whole group.

Shadowcat Kitty is vulnerable for only 2 turns after she comes out of phase. Minus away the 2 attacks which will auto miss from digital decoy, plus she has natrually high dodge, she should survive until she can go back into phase again. Once she goes back into phase, digital decoy by then should have refreshed its cooldown. Throw in quantum Jumper to accelerate it even more. Its possible for her to maintain a very aggressive all out attack stance. She is my main damage dealer actually, especially against Captain Ameria.

I don't use her sneak attack. I usually use her first ability phased attack. It does high damage, and its stealthy, so no counter attacks from it. I use her fourth ability call lockheed when I am in phase. So I am usually only in phase for 2 turns instead of 3. But like I said. Its ok most of the time. Her alt suit is very worth it.

[AbzBalmart]

Question... With Kitty's Alt - Do I go Scrapper or Infiltrator? :) Thanks in advance :o

[Namikaze116]

Question... With Kitty's Alt - Do I go Scrapper or Infiltrator? :) Thanks in advance :oI kept her as an inf because I wanted a strong inf that can dodge.BC is very strong,but has no true inf qualities in her moveset imo and Spidey is strong as well,but even with his super high evasion sometimes he's hit,even if the attack doesn't land,the Spider sense effect wears of.Thus,Kitty was the best candidate for a strong inf that dodges everything.

[AbzBalmart]

I kept her as an inf because I wanted a strong inf that can dodge.BC is very strong,but has no true inf qualities in her moveset imo and Spidey is strong as well,but even with his super high evasion sometimes he's hit,even if the attack doesn't land,the Spider sense effect wears of.Thus,Kitty was the best candidate for a strong inf that dodges everything.

Thank you so much for your help :D Going to recruit Kitty and get her Alt Costume now :o

[CountCarlo]

Her Phased in both her Shadowcat suits and her regular costume has just been nerfed to two turns anyway...

[Cedric Seawind]

I was jsut using her in PVP, got hit with Mind Tap from Emma, figured I could use Lockheed as her LVL 9 power is "Stealthy: Does not trigger counter-attacks or protect abilities" and proceeded to take the damage from Mind Tap. IS it supposed to work that way? I thought stealthy would get around that, as it is explicitely for getting around similar things.

[Namikaze116]

I was jsut using her in PVP, got hit with Mind Tap from Emma, figured I could use Lockheed as her LVL 9 power is "Stealthy: Does not trigger counter-attacks or protect abilities" and proceeded to take the damage from Mind Tap. IS it supposed to work that way? I thought stealthy would get around that, as it is explicitely for getting around similar things.MA is neither a counter move nor a protect.It simply activates after any offensive action takes place hence the reason why stealthy attacks cannot evade it.

[greylincoln]

with combat reflexes' new mechanism, her sneak attack can now kill anyone.
so what you do is call lockheed against a tactician and on her next turn use sneak attack.

[Namikaze116]

with combat reflexes' new mechanism, her sneak attack can now kill anyone.
so what you do is call lockheed against a tactician and on her next turn use sneak attack.That's what people always did.

[greylincoln]

That's what people always did.
but now her sneak attack is stealthy making it a real sneak attack.

[Namikaze116]

but now her sneak attack is stealthy making it a real sneak attack.Ah now I see your point.It really should have been all along.

[Cherry Needle]

Am I the only one who thinks that Lockheed should have a class of his own? like maybe he should be a blaster? Hm.

[Konmato]

Am I the only one who thinks that Lockheed should have a class of his own? like maybe he should be a blaster? Hm.
I don't know how a move/counter attack should have a class of his own. D:

[Namikaze116]

To anyone concerned about the apparent decrease in 1 turn on her moves/passives read the last note:http://forum.playdom.com/showthread.php?155255.

[Loup Garou]

To anyone concerned about the apparent decrease in 1 turn on her moves/passives read the last note:http://forum.playdom.com/showthread.php?155255.
So it still lasts 3 turns but it shows the next 2 not counting the 1st one? (if that made sense)

[Namikaze116]

So it still lasts 3 turns but it shows the next 2 not counting the 1st one? (if that made sense)So it would seem,because what I've noticed with other heroes is that their turns showed up like this: <insert effect here> 2 turns left-1 turn left-then simply the name of the effect.

[Loup Garou]

So it would seem,because what I've noticed with other heroes is that their turns showed up like this: <insert effect here> 2 turns left-1 turn left-then simply the name of the effect.
Yeah i noticed it in Thing's StoneWall and Mental Scarring. They didn't show any turn left cause they last for one turn.

[Silencer]

Kitty as Scrapper is awesome.

She now needs a level 9 skill that can do something more than call a dragon (which she can sometimes do anyway). If Lockheed is called upon, perhaps Burn and another debuff.

She is incredibly useful in PvP and PVE.
Definitely one of the BEST heroes in the game.

[Namikaze116]

Kitty as Scrapper is awesome.

She now needs a level 9 skill that can do something more than call a dragon (which she can sometimes do anyway). If Lockheed is called upon, perhaps Burn and another debuff.

She is incredibly useful in PvP and PVE.
Definitely one of the BEST heroes in the game.Lockheed already has the chance to cause burning.

[mcpooface]

So I've leveled her to level 6 now...still have yet to see Lockheed. "protect" is a very iffy word.

[Namikaze116]

So I've leveled her to level 6 now...still have yet to see Lockheed. "protect" is a very iffy word.Luck has a good deal to do with that because I don't think they ever put an actual %-age value for us to have a way to predict how often he should come out.It happens relatively often for me so I can't complain.

[mcpooface]

oh I don't expect it happen very often, but 0 times in 6 levels?

[mcpooface]

oh did I mention I'm a moron? I got her after I got the Pawn, I'm guessing since I only get hit by AoE attacks that it severely lowers the chances of it proccing. oh well, I'm sure I'll see it at some point.

[bwheeler]

I just got her and plan to go with the Scrapper uniform since all of sudden the infiltrator class is STACKED! Any thoughts on her as a scrapper over infiltrator before I spend the CPs?

[Dex1138]

So I've leveled her to level 6 now...still have yet to see Lockheed. "protect" is a very iffy word.
I have her at 9 and I don't think I've seen it happen once...

[Eldenfirefly]

I have seen it happen before. Its quite fierce when it does trigger (though its rare).

If you have the alt suit, with the strike from shadows buff. Then, the enemy gets hit twice when he attacks you. Once from lockheed, and one more time from Kitty herself! Very painful! :)

[Marishka]

Hey, can somebody answer pls. I'm really wondering why they didn't use her cool mutant name "Shadow Cat" instead?

[WoodGod77]

Hey, can somebody answer pls. I'm really wondering why they didn't use her cool mutant name "Shadow Cat" instead?

At least you got the Lockheed & the Shadowcat costume for Ariel/Sprite.

[Loup Garou]

Hey, can somebody answer pls. I'm really wondering why they didn't use her cool mutant name "Shadow Cat" instead?
Pretty much because she wore the blue costume the same time she started calling herself Shadowcat while she wore her original yellow & bue costume during the time she hadn't picked a codename for herself yet. (and by she i mean the writers)

[Marishka]

Ok.. but why is my Kitty with the ShadowCat costume (infil.) almost never summons Lockheed as her passive now?

[Loup Garou]

Ok.. but why is my Kitty with the ShadowCat costume (infil.) almost never summons Lockheed as her passive now?
I've noticed it too. Maybe cause she has the Strike from the Shadows counter? Not sure.

[Eldenfirefly]

I am not sure about this, but I suspect lockheed can only be summoned if the option for her to use her 4th ability is there. If its on cooldown, lockheed won't appear. Because the few very rare times when lockheed got summoned, it was when I had the ability up, but hadn't used it yet.

[Namikaze116]

I am not sure about this, but I suspect lockheed can only be summoned if the option for her to use her 4th ability is there. If its on cooldown, lockheed won't appear. Because the few very rare times when lockheed got summoned, it was when I had the ability up, but hadn't used it yet.Maybe that's why people have never seen him show up.I can't remember correctly whether or not he ever showed up before Kitty hit L9,so maybe someone out there can help clarify.

[vaultofechoes]

I am not sure about this, but I suspect lockheed can only be summoned if the option for her to use her 4th ability is there. If its on cooldown, lockheed won't appear. Because the few very rare times when lockheed got summoned, it was when I had the ability up, but hadn't used it yet.

Nope, I've definitely gotten Lockheed even when Kitty was low level (2-3).

If they want to make Kitty stronger they could have her summon Lockheed randomly when attacking as well, like with Magik.

[Loup Garou]

Nope, I've definitely gotten Lockheed even when Kitty was low level (2-3).

If they want to make Kitty stronger they could have her summon Lockheed randomly when attacking as well, like with Magik.
Nice idea but only for her first 3 moves. Calling Lockheed and then have him randomly summoned again would be silly.

[Marishka]

Don't you guys think it's because of her alt. costume?(shadowcat infil.) 'Coz i remember pretty clear she's summoning Lockheed sometimes, but when i bought & equip her the costume i don't see her summon Lockheed anymore :/ (she's for leveling to 9, hope i'll see if she gets fixed when i have the lockheed ability)

[Namikaze116]

Don't you guys think it's because of her alt. costume?(shadowcat infil.) 'Coz i remember pretty clear she's summoning Lockheed sometimes, but when i bought & equip her the costume i don't see her summon Lockheed anymore :/ (she's for leveling to 9, hope i'll see if she gets fixed when i have the lockheed ability)Nope,her original costume also allows her to summon Lockheed.

Side Note: From teaming up with Magik it seems that her summon activates alot more.This is quite welcomed.

[melanthios]

The Kitty strategy of Lockheed -> Recharge -> Shadow Attack doesn't work anymore. :(

She loses her Phased status as soon as her 3rd turn begins, rather than after her 3rd move.

[Flinx]

The Kitty strategy of Lockheed -> Recharge -> Shadow Attack doesn't work anymore. :(

She loses her Phased status as soon as her 3rd turn begins, rather than after her 3rd move.

I use her all the time and it still works for me... so no idea.

[melanthios]

It'll still WORK, but you don't get the bonus damage from Phased Attack because she comes out of Phased once the third round begins. The damage is way reduced.

In the past she came out of phased after the third MOVE; now she does before.

[Zasalamel]

is Magneto Electron / Positron Well and ethereal attack. Cause it can hit Shadowcat Kitty while she has phased up.

[Namikaze116]

is Magneto Electron / Positron Well and ethereal attack. Cause it can hit Shadowcat Kitty while she has phased up.Wow that sucks.I never fought him with Kitty,but he also defies the new infil bonus where every move is made stealthy.I don't know if that's intentional simply because he's Magneto or if he was just left out of the coding.

[Kitana]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-l0S6G2dmsdE/T8yHc885KZI/AAAAAAAAu20/D7wP9LVlcPs/s1600/x-men002+paul+smith.jpg

[Namikaze116]

That's kinda cool.You sure do read alot of comics Kit.

[Kitana]

That's kinda cool.You sure do read alot of comics Kit.

I have quite alot of comics from the 80s :)

[Loup Garou]

I have quite alot of comics from the 80s :)
I wonder what they were thinking when giving her all these codenames & awful costumes. :p

[Magnito]

Lockheed is now making her come unphased. Anyone else notice that?

[Loup Garou]

Lockheed is now making her come unphased. Anyone else notice that?
The passive or the move?

[Magnito]

The move. But I tried it again and it worked as normal. Must have been a one time glitch.

[viktorkain]

I just got Kitty to 9 almost have her at level 10 How is she for PvP as far as Defending goes. I am level 101 and have never run across her, was thinking it may be a bad idea because I think Emma can mental tap her through her phased not sure though.

[Namikaze116]

I just got Kitty to 9 almost have her at level 10 How is she for PvP as far as Defending goes. I am level 101 and have never run across her, was thinking it may be a bad idea because I think Emma can mental tap her through her phased not sure though.Most likely since it's an avoidance effect. Since you're past level 100 you'll mainly see Cap,SW,Emma,MB & Annihilus Torch.

[viktorkain]

Most likely since it's an avoidance effect. Since you're past level 100 you'll mainly see Cap,SW,Emma,MB & Annihilus Torch. Lol I have never seen one torch outside of the one I run on my away team. I always see cap,emma,mockingbird and P5 Colossus, I am shocked when I see anyone else.

[PaleHeart52]

I got enough CP to buy her alt. Should I get Infil Kitty or Scrap Kitty?

[Namikaze116]

I got enough CP to buy her alt. Should I get Infil Kitty or Scrap Kitty?That depends on which class you prefer since I've heard that she's great in both.I only have her inf alt and have never regretted getting it.

[zuri]

I got enough CP to buy her alt. Should I get Infil Kitty or Scrap Kitty?

Infiltrator is better. Countering attacks while being phased is awesome. ;)

[Miodrak]

I don't know if everyone is having this issue but... I cannot phase!!!!!!!! :mad: Each time I use Phased Attack inmediately it says that Phase is removed!!! Am I doing anything wrong? is this happening to anyone else?

[Saikat D]

I don't know if everyone is having this issue but... I cannot phase!!!!!!!! :mad: Each time I use Phased Attack inmediately it says that Phase is removed!!! Am I doing anything wrong? is this happening to anyone else?

Yup.. i'm seeing that too

[Romir616]

Hey there, I've been using kitty since the last PVP... I 'm not aware of any recent tweaks with her and I don't recall starting the game with her in phased form. I would always use her LV 1 to get the phased form.

Anyway, I skipped a day of playing the tournament and now whenever I use Lv1 skill, she would get the Phased message confirmation [plus a green phase icon appears] but will immediately be followed by "Phase Removed" message. The phase icon would turn red and regular attacks would Kitty. I changed my ISO's to lean more on evasion but that did not work at all. Still not getting the full Phased form.

Any clues on what's going on with my game?

[Loup Garou]

Hey there, I've been using kitty since the last PVP... I 'm not aware of any recent tweaks with her and I don't recall starting the game with her in phased form. I would always use her LV 1 to get the phased form.

Anyway, I skipped a day of playing the tournament and now whenever I use Lv1 skill, she would get the Phased message confirmation [plus a green phase icon appears] but will immediately be followed by "Phase Removed" message. The phase icon would turn red and regular attacks would Kitty. I changed my ISO's to lean more on evasion but that did not work at all. Still not getting the full Phased form.

Any clues on what's going on with my game?
When you first use her Lv1 you get phased. If you attack again Kitty loses Phased. Phased goes away after attacking. Only her Lv9 doesn't remove it.

[heaven132]

Can I Phase back in after phasing out if i have two consecutive turns?

Is Shadowcat Kitty now outmatched by the the Grey Suit Black Widow, since the grey suit black widow always counter attacks?

[dante99991]

Telepathic Resistance: Her thoughts were highly erratic when phased as if there was no mind to telepathically affect.

from marvel.wikia.com

Want that ability sooooooooooooooooooo much :))

[Absolute]

does strike from the shadows and combat reflex stack?

Edit: didn't kitty's shadow kick used to not remove phased? i'm almost positive it did v.v

[jenyaq]

with whom should i use my shadowcat kitty?

[Sokket]

does strike from the shadows and combat reflex stack?

Edit: didn't kitty's shadow kick used to not remove phased? i'm almost positive it did v.v

Strike From the Shadows did not stack with Combat Reflexes. They use the same move (her kick), so Strike From the Shadows is like 3 rounds of perma-reflexes, tactician or not. Shadow kick doesn't remove phased when it is used reflexively by Kitty, but does break phased if used as her action for the round.

Kitty was my favorite PVP character up until spec ops two introduced Emma and the Pinion, then the Scrapper update made them not care about phased anymore. Before then, she was awesome.

[Sokket]

with whom should i use my shadowcat kitty?

I suggest either a defender (Colossus is very approriate), or someone who gives Combo (Iron Fist, DD, BW).

And if you're feeling really frisky, after Phoenix uses Mind Link on Kitty, hilarity ensues

She's also one of the few heroes that benefits less from Jumper, because she breaks her initial phased earlier.

[JDCDK]

Mockingbird REALLY hates Kitty PVP for some reason. Perfect for letting her go crazy on a phased Cat! :)

[Agent Excelsior]

Sorry if someone has already posted this question, but why is Kitty Pryde referred to by her given name and not "Shadowcat"? I think she (and Luke Cage aka "Power Man" are the only heroes referred to by their given name rather than their super hero aliases. I mean Captain America isn't "Steve Rogers" or Phoenix isn't "Jean Grey" for example...

I understand why Luke Cage isn't "Power Man" (he doesn't like to be called that and the whole Marvel/DC issue with Wonder Man/Wonder Woman and Power Man/Power Girl).

Just think she should be renamed "Shadowcat" for consistency sake.

[Loup Garou]

Sorry if someone has already posted this question, but why is Kitty Pryde referred to by her given name and not "Shadowcat"? I think she (and Luke Cage aka "Power Man" are the only heroes referred to by their given name rather than their super hero aliases. I mean Captain America isn't "Steve Rogers" or Phoenix isn't "Jean Grey" for example...

I understand why Luke Cage isn't "Power Man" (he doesn't like to be called that and the whole Marvel/DC issue with Wonder Man/Wonder Woman and Power Man/Power Girl).

Just think she should be renamed "Shadowcat" for consistency sake.
Both Jean & Kitty go by their real names as well as their codenames. Kitty doesn't use her codename anymore i think but at the time she wore the blue costume she started using Shadowcat as her codename and Jean went by her real name some time around the 90s i think when she realised she wasn't a Marvel "Girl" anymore. Phoenix is Jean Grey though and i think it's appropriate they call her that. I still wish we could get non-Phoenix Jean and have Phoenix & Marvel Girl as alt with different power set for Phoenix alt.

[Lemegeton]

can anyone answer this for me. if i buy coulsons revenge and use it with shadowcat costume in the team and the coordinated attack causes her to attack will she lose phased status.

[Yakchew]

scapper or infil shadowcat works better in PVP? opinion? currently lvl164 anyway..

[Joprinz_Joestar]

scapper or infil shadowcat works better in PVP? opinion? currently lvl164 anyway..

I would go with Infiltrator, since it is my favorite costume. :)

[yore]

I have Kitty about two months and i noticed that her passive Lockheed triggers rarely. I saw it only 3 or 4 times.

[Flinx]

I have Kitty about two months and i noticed that her passive Lockheed triggers rarely. I saw it only 3 or 4 times.

Yeah, it has a 10% chance to trigger, and doesn't really seem to trigger that often.

[Contextual]

Kitty Pride is such a neat character, and so close to useful. I really wish she could get a little push to make her a playable Infiltrator.

I suggest a buff to make her a bit more versatile as well as increasing her counter-attacky powers, which seems to be her main purpose:
1. Increase the chance of the Lockheed counterattack going off.
2. Replace Shadow Kick with something harder-to-evade, like this: Trip: AoE, Stealthy, Does not remove Phased, Low damage, Moderate stamina usage, 30% stun chance.
3. Re-code her counters so that they can ALL go off. Right now it seems like Strike from the Shadows counters preclude Combat Reflexes counters (or the other way around, I can't remember). Maybe it's because they all trigger her lvl 6--Shadow Kick. I think it would be sweet if all three of her counters could go off on somebody, and one way to do that could be having Strike from the Shadows do Shadow Kick, but having Combat Reflexes do Trip. This would make her a better tank on par with Cap or Spidey or an agent loaded with counterattack weapons.
4. I could also see her attack getting a small nudge upwards. Nothing huge--I mean, I think we can agree that the Bolts of Baalthaak buff on Dr. Strange was a bit much. But a more moderate tweak is called for.

Do most/all of this and I could really see Kitty being viable at higher ranks. She teams beautifully with Colossus or Phoenix, and both of them are also quite runnable.

[teraxle]

I was seeing Phased end on counterattacks brought about by Strike from the Shadows on her alt outfit today in 11.4. Not sure if a bug or a change I've yet to see. Sort of negates a lot of the utility of her alt costume though. No me gusta. :(

[Namikaze116]

I was seeing Phased end on counterattacks brought about by Strike from the Shadows on her alt outfit today in 11.4. Not sure if a bug or a change I've yet to see. Sort of negates a lot of the utility of her alt costume though. No me gusta. :(I'll have to use her and see for myself,I'll get back to you on this but not now since my energy is done.

It doesn't happen for me so you should probably report it.

[Cola_]

Any idea how does work Kitty's phasing and laser spotter?

[Colosso]

The only attacks that can hit her when phased are psychic ones, so even if she's got laser spotted if it's not psychic it won't hit

[BlackFlagg]

I'm sure this has probably been brought up many times, but how is her sneak attack not stealthy, it involves going through the ground and coming up behind the enemy, a protector jumping in front to block it doesn't make much sense, heh

[Blood Lord]

So does Kitty's Alt automatically counter any attacks right now using her L2??

[Flinx]

So does Kitty's Alt automatically counter any attacks right now using her L2??

Yes, her counter attack was switched from her level 6 to her level 2. (Her Scrapper follow-up attack is still her level 6 attack)

(And according to the patch notes, Strike from the Shadows now stacks with Combat Reflexes, so if she has both she should counter attack twice)

[Hasheem]

I was seeing Phased end on counterattacks brought about by Strike from the Shadows on her alt outfit today in 11.4. Not sure if a bug or a change I've yet to see. Sort of negates a lot of the utility of her alt costume though. No me gusta. :(


This is happening in PvP too but not in every fight. I cant pinpoint what causes it. "Phased" buff is still on when you point at her, but every attack can hit her.

[Cayenne]

Hi new to this site I was wondering what other good iso-8 besides powerful and steady are also good options is refined chaotic iso-8 good? for a infiltrator alt costume?

and just wondering maybe it would be nice if spidey can have some competition as an infiltrator to give more options with other characters its kinda boring seeing some specific characters over and over again specially on level 100+ because they are the best (yes they are the best but) a little competition won't hurt right? giving a lot of variety characters to choose from specially for infiltrators because spidey would be the best pick and not all infiltrators have the potential that spidey has

maybe giving a bonus to an upcoming outfit from the coming x-men movie? kitty when phased can also have a 35% chance to protect a hero by phasing both of them when the hero is being targeted by single attacks? which in the comics she can actually phase others with her and 25% chances to evade psychic attacks when phased like emma's mind tap maybe which can even make her a good defender(I just heard it from some other forum that kitty is a bit resistant to psionic attacks but maybe im asking too much and maybe this is not true also so sorry if I ever typed this) because I see the annihilus human torch have lots of buffs as well so why not? because to begin with they both cost 33cp only and still annihilus is at times is still used in 100+ because mostly they would already use 90cp+ heros already

kitty is the only one to benefit from phased yes but maybe giving the phased buff some more uses would be good.
(because actually what kitty lacked was her uses of her abilities which spidey actually has shes a great tank and attacker and does amazing with specific heros that makes great combinations but no one would really attack her when phased (except computers) which will not activate her strike from the shadow and infiltrator bonus but good thing about her when phased is heros with AOE can't use their AOE because kitty would be hit and might KO them by her strike from shadows and much worse for tacticians that uses AOE for counter attacks well).

not really complaining just giving my ideas and maybe the makers might like my ideas (might not but at least tried maybe you guys wouldn't like this idea also :D) for her next upcoming outfit :D yes she has a big spot light but maybe the heros with bigger light wouldn't mind sharing it with others

but over all I like her and her abilities but giving more improvements would be nice not just her but other characters as well

sorry im just new and im already doing this .....

[Namikaze116]

Hi new to this site I was wondering what other good iso-8 besides powerful and steady are also good options is refined chaotic iso-8 good? for a infiltrator alt costume?

and just wondering maybe it would be nice if spidey can have some competition as an infiltrator to give more options with other characters its kinda boring seeing some specific characters over and over again specially on level 100+ because they are the best (yes they are the best but) a little competition won't hurt right? giving a lot of variety characters to choose from specially for infiltrators because spidey would be the best pick and not all infiltrators have the potential that spidey has

maybe giving a bonus to an upcoming outfit from the coming x-men movie? kitty when phased can also have a 35% chance to protect a hero by phasing both of them when the hero is being targeted by single attacks? which in the comics she can actually phase others with her and 25% chances to evade psychic attacks when phased like emma's mind tap maybe which can even make her a good defender(I just heard it from some other forum that kitty is a bit resistant to psionic attacks but maybe im asking too much and maybe this is not true also so sorry if I ever typed this) because I see the annihilus human torch have lots of buffs as well so why not? because to begin with they both cost 33cp only and still annihilus is at times is still used in 100+ because mostly they would already use 90cp+ heros already

kitty is the only one to benefit from phased yes but maybe giving the phased buff some more uses would be good.
(because actually what kitty lacked was her uses of her abilities which spidey actually has shes a great tank and attacker and does amazing with specific heros that makes great combinations but no one would really attack her when phased (except computers) which will not activate her strike from the shadow and infiltrator bonus but good thing about her when phased is heros with AOE can't use their AOE because kitty would be hit and might KO them by her strike from shadows and much worse for tacticians that uses AOE for counter attacks well).

not really complaining just giving my ideas and maybe the makers might like my ideas (might not but at least tried maybe you guys wouldn't like this idea also :D) for her next upcoming outfit :D yes she has a big spot light but maybe the heros with bigger light wouldn't mind sharing it with others

but over all I like her and her abilities but giving more improvements would be nice not just her but other characters as well

sorry im just new and im already doing this .....Hi and welcome to the forums,
Regardless of you being new here your suggestion still counts just as anyone's would.I like the suggestion about her being able to have a chance to Phase others. That would be pretty cool,but I don't think I'd want her as a protector. In the future try to post your suggestions here:http://forum.playdom.com/forumdisplay.php?617-Suggestions-and-Feedback-%28MAA%29 and also try to articulate your ideas more clearly.

[Loup Garou]

The only attacks that can hit her when phased are psychic ones, so even if she's got laser spotted if it's not psychic it won't hit
Don't Ethereal Strike & True Strike hit her?

[Blood Lord]

Don't Ethereal Strike & True Strike hit her?

Not True Strike abilities. Phased is not an avoidance effect. The only thing that can affect Phased targets are Psychic attacks and Ethereal Strikes.

[Flinx]

Not True Strike abilities. Phased is not an avoidance effect. The only thing that can affect Phased targets are Psychic attacks and Ethereal Strikes.

And the Signpost (for some unknown reason...)

[PunyHuman]

And the Signpost (for some unknown reason...)
because it's subtle (sadly)

[Blood Lord]

because it's subtle (sadly)

If that was the case, then Angolob should be able to remove the Phased Buff, but it doesn't for some unknown reason (sadly)

[Loup Garou]

If that was the case, then Angolob should be able to remove the Phased Buff, but it doesn't for some unknown reason (sadly)
I think i'd be fair if it could remove the Phased from her Lv 2 not the costume passive.

[Flinx]

I think i'd be fair if it could remove the Phased from her Lv 2 not the costume passive.
Only if it didn't give you the "Recently Phased" debuff if it was removed. (and it is her level 1 that applies Phased)

[Loup Garou]

Only if it didn't give you the "Recently Phased" debuff if it was removed. (and it is her level 1 that applies Phased)
Ah yeah i completely forgot. I haven't used her in a while.

[Daniel_C]

so what are some good team ups for kitty right now, i have been using kitty in pvp and black widow has been a good team up. most people would say phoenix but i don't like phoenix that much honestly.

[Flinx]

P5 Colossus maybe? She does Exposed, he exploits Exposed... He can (hopefully) keep her alive while she has Recently Phased up...

[Hulk4488]

I dont know if its a bug, but she just did to me a strike from the shadow with sneak attack in pvp !

[Flinx]

I dont know if its a bug, but she just did to me a strike from the shadow with sneak attack in pvp !

They changed her counter-attack from her level 6 to her level 2 when last week's patch came out.

[Hulk4488]

They changed her counter-attack from her level 6 to her level 2 when last week's patch came out.

Ok, I have read the patch note but didnt see that ! Tks ! That makes her a lot better then !

[Flinx]

Ok, I have read the patch note but didnt see that ! Tks ! That makes her a lot better then !

Yeah, it didn't mention it in the patch notes (talked about her getting both combat reflexes and Strike from the Shadows at the same time... I haven't tested it to see if it works...)

[teamchakhun]

So.... I just bought her alt...so her only move that won't cancel phase is Call Lockheed right? :confused:

[Namikaze116]

So.... I just bought her alt...so her only move that won't cancel phase is Call Lockheed right? :confused:Sadly yes.

[PunyHuman]

so what are some good team ups for kitty right now, i have been using kitty in pvp and black widow has been a good team up. most people would say phoenix but i don't like phoenix that much honestly.
I think Valk works good with her. Oh, and Phoenix, ofc.

[Flinx]

Yeah, it didn't mention it in the patch notes (talked about her getting both combat reflexes and Strike from the Shadows at the same time... I haven't tested it to see if it works...)

Ok, I tested Strike from the Shadows + Combat Reflexes, and she did her level 2 and then her level 6 as counter-attacks

[Maximoff]

1 quick question : Her Shadow's Counter is now LVL 2 so, will it remove her Phased ?

[Namikaze116]

1 quick question : Her Shadow's Counter is now LVL 2 so, will it remove her Phased ?Just tested and she remains phased. Thanks for the info,I'll add to the first post.

Started using her in PvP and easily got the 5 wins I needed for the daily spin. That change in her counter move really made an improvement so I'll resume using her in PvE as well.

[Sir_Walter]

I've been seeing her alt a lot in PvP. She's pretty tough! I've definitely gotten beat by a team with her in it more than once...

[lolcheelol]

who does she pair well with? multiple teams would be nice :D

[Namikaze116]

who does she pair well with? multiple teams would be nice :DI use Strange to heal her when she's unphased.

@Sir Walter
If you are at level 212-215 then there is a chance that you faced me.

[Sir_Walter]

I use Strange to heal her when she's unphased.

@Sir Walter
If you are at level 212-215 then there is a chance that you faced me.

Not quite there yet... :D (165 here)

[Hasheem]

There's some incosistency in interaction with scroll of angolob.

Her alt suit has 2 advantages - countering with sneak attack + starting phased. Scroll removes her countering but not "phased" status. IMHO, since she is phased the scroll shouldnt be able to interact with her. Either that, or remove phased too.

[Namikaze116]

There's some incosistency in interaction with scroll of angolob.

Her alt suit has 2 advantages - countering with sneak attack + starting phased. Scroll removes her countering but not "phased" status. IMHO, since she is phased the scroll shouldnt be able to interact with her. Either that, or remove phased too.I think I've seen posts regarding the uncertainty of what the scroll actually has the power to remove but I can't remember where I read them.

[simango]

OK if I get her Alternate Shadowcat oufit would I be stuck with the upgrade? If so I might not get any outfits and just use my CPs to bring everybody in.

[Agent Lyoko]

OK if I get her Alternate Shadowcat oufit would I be stuck with the upgrade? If so I might not get any outfits and just use my CPs to bring everybody in.
You would have the option of switching between her original and upgraded outfit, but you'd still lose those CPs you used to buy the alternate.

[Sir_Walter]

There's some incosistency in interaction with scroll of angolob.

Her alt suit has 2 advantages - countering with sneak attack + starting phased. Scroll removes her countering but not "phased" status. IMHO, since she is phased the scroll shouldnt be able to interact with her. Either that, or remove phased too.

I noticed this too...I think you're right...if she's phased, she should avoid the Scroll completely so none of her buffs should disappear. Unless they make Phased be removable with the Scroll, which I don't think is a good idea.

[Namikaze116]

OK if I get her Alternate Shadowcat oufit would I be stuck with the upgrade? If so I might not get any outfits and just use my CPs to bring everybody in.As agent Lyoko said,with any hero you'd have the option of switching between suits. However once you've spent the CPs there's no way to get them back so choose which suit you're buying wisely.

[simango]

Thanks. I might get it after I pick up Greer (Tigra) first. I need to get the Lady Avengers that I can for now so I'll possibly get the upgrade shortly after that. I've never bought any upgrade outfits. I'm surprised that they didn't split Shadow Cat off on her own since she was herself with Shadow Cat for X-Men Evolution.

[JDCDK]

Kitty Pride is known and feared for her phrasing ability being the bane of most electronics. When ever she phrase through electronics, they'll shotdown or get fried. That is one of her main abilities. WHY does nothing like that happen when she is facing electronics? It's such a central thing in many scenarioes and it was recently hillariously displayed in her A+X storyline with Iron Man. Please put that bonus in?

[Namikaze116]

Kitty Pride is known and feared for her phrasing ability being the bane of most electronics. When ever she phrase through electronics, they'll shotdown or get fried. That is one of her main abilities. WHY does nothing like that happen when she is facing electronics? It's such a central thing in many scenarioes and it was recently hillariously displayed in her A+X storyline with Iron Man. Please put that bonus in?You should post this in the suggestions thread.

[Frostsiege]

Whoa!!! Fought with PVP teams with Alt Kitty Pryde; Inf & Scrapper. 3 different PVP fights actually.

She is deadly for the first 1-2 rounds or for the period when her Phased is on. She did 12K to 16K damage while Phased.

I remember the last PVP fight of the 3, where she actually devastated my team; her Agent had the Sinister Scepter too. Gen QS was decimated.

I believe I'm getting her Shadowcat alt, after buying War Machine & IM NEw alt suits.

[Namikaze116]

Whoa!!! Fought with PVP teams with Alt Kitty Pryde; Inf & Scrapper. 3 different PVP fights actually.

She is deadly for the first 1-2 rounds or for the period when her Phased is on. She did 12K to 16K damage while Phased.

I remember the last PVP fight of the 3, where she actually devastated my team; her Agent had the Sinister Scepter too. Gen QS was decimated.

I believe I'm getting her Shadowcat alt, after buying War Machine & IM NEw alt suits.You should because as you've seen for yourself the alt makes her deadly.

[Colosso]

Finally got her just for the fact that she's needed for epic Viper on 12.2

[estmax]

using agent bruiser dps lvl 155 ,kitty shadowcat infiltrator , for defence pvp which hero whit her???? Quick silver blu? phoenix white ? fantomex? vision?? ...

[Namikaze116]

using agent bruiser dps ,kitty shadowcat infiltrator , for defence pvp which hero whit her???? Quick silver blu? phoenix white ? fantomex? vision?? ...I usually use her with Strange or Scarlet so they can support her when Phased wears off.

[Maximoff]

which suit is better with the current meta ? Scrapper or Infl ?

[salva893]

which suit is better with the current meta ? Scrapper or Infl ?
With the number of scrapper BSQS running around you should actually never run and infiltrator , do you have a viable protector then u can use her scrapper alt , though in my level range infiltrators are a liability. So bottom line- get her scrapper alt ,it will- increase accuracy bonus and kitty will be useful against Scrapper BSQS.

[salva893]

which suit is better with the current meta ? Scrapper or Infl ?
With the number of scrapper BSQS running around you should actually never run and infiltrator , do you have a viable protector then u can use her scrapper alt , though in my level range infiltrators are a liability. So bottom line- get her scrapper alt ,it will- increase accuracy bonus and kitty will be useful against Scrapper BSQS.

[Bufftheoldones]

With the number of scrapper BSQS running around you should actually never run and infiltrator , do you have a viable protector then u can use her scrapper alt , though in my level range infiltrators are a liability. So bottom line- get her scrapper alt ,it will- increase accuracy bonus and kitty will be useful against Scrapper BSQS.

Since QS cant hit you the first 2 rounds i wouldnt worry about him. After that he should be dead

[CapedCrusaders]

With the number of scrapper BSQS running around you should actually never run and infiltrator , do you have a viable protector then u can use her scrapper alt , though in my level range infiltrators are a liability. So bottom line- get her scrapper alt ,it will- increase accuracy bonus and kitty will be useful against Scrapper BSQS.

would you say that the risk of inf to scrapper liability is greater than scrapper to bruiser?

The only truly strong scrapper is brown wolverine (that i've come across). QS is just annoying. he doesn't do as much damage.

but there are a ton of captain britain out there and just one stack of enraged and he wipes out anyone.

[Namikaze116]

would you say that the risk of inf to scrapper liability is greater than scrapper to bruiser?

The only truly strong scrapper is brown wolverine (that i've come across). QS is just annoying. he doesn't do as much damage.

but there are a ton of captain britain out there and just one stack of enraged and he wipes out anyone.That's true,I've managed to beat Wolvie with inf Kitty but once any bruiser gets enraged know your team will die in the bruiser's next turn.

[salva893]

That's true,I've managed to beat Wolvie with inf Kitty but once any bruiser gets enraged know your team will die in the bruiser's next turn.

while it is true that an enraged bruiser is more dangerous than a scrapper with CQC, i face lots of scrapper BSQS+emma P5 in upper vibranium, trust me a cosmic powered BSQS uses tag team to apply combo setup to the entire team, his blast from the past coupled with war frenzy is way more dangerous , but it depends on ur LEVEL RANGE and the USAGE of Kitty prydes alt, if u want to use her in pvp and see a lot of scrappers , it might be a bad choice, also i dont see a lot of people using CB after his nerf at my level range.

[Rayleigh]

how do you guys use her in afk ? just buy her blue suit, but not impressed

[salva893]

all i can say is she is not very useful in the current meta because her suit buff is removable, also leaving her as a scrapper or and infiltrator both have disadvantages in pvp, but leaving an infiltrator on defense is not good(except the agent with infil power armor), i have used her alt suit in pvp, she does high damage when phased but not very useful after the phased wears off.

[salva893]

how do you guys use her in afk ? just buy her blue suit, but not impressed
i came to know you made ada last season, use the same team, not much has changed , kitty is good but there are better characters simply because her alt suit buff is removable.

[Namikaze116]

while it is true that an enraged bruiser is more dangerous than a scrapper with CQC, i face lots of scrapper BSQS+emma P5 in upper vibranium, trust me a cosmic powered BSQS uses tag team to apply combo setup to the entire team, his blast from the past coupled with war frenzy is way more dangerous , but it depends on ur LEVEL RANGE and the USAGE of Kitty prydes alt, if u want to use her in pvp and see a lot of scrappers , it might be a bad choice, also i dont see a lot of people using CB after his nerf at my level range.I only engaged in PvP last season for the daily spins (can't this season because I'm preparing for exams and that will be too time consuming) but it sounds like a lot more people are using BSQS from what you're saying so I get where you're coming from.


how do you guys use her in afk ? just buy her blue suit, but not impressedShe's not good in AFK because I doubt they AI uses her as you would especially considering the AI will be more likely to use a move that would get rid of Phased.

[Rayleigh]

i came to know you made ada last season, use the same team, not much has changed , kitty is good but there are better characters simply because her alt suit buff is removable.
i'm just little bored and want to try some new team, and since hotshot now everywhere i think this kitty can dodge the stun, but like you said she's not that good

[salva893]

i'm just little bored and want to try some new team, and since hotshot now everywhere i think this kitty can dodge the stun, but like you said she's not that good
what i meant is that she is not good enough to get u into ada again, also which suit did u buy infiltrator or scrapper, i have the scrapper suit .also regarding hotshot , use a character that can either take two turns or protects from aoe attacks. also the stun chance for hotshot is not very high as it used to be on offense.

[Rayleigh]

what i meant is that she is not good enough to get u into ada again, also which suit did u buy infiltrator or scrapper, i have the scrapper suit .also regarding hotshot , use a character that can either take two turns or protects from aoe attacks. also the stun chance for hotshot is not very high as it used to be on offense.
ya that what i meant, she's not good enough to replace my current team. I buy her inf suit because i'm not seeing scrapper to much but tact emma everywhere.
and thx for your suggestion about hotshot.

[PunyHuman]

a quick question: what's her follow-up attack? L1, L2 or L6?

[salva893]

ya that what i meant, she's not good enough to replace my current team. I buy her inf suit because i'm not seeing scrapper to much but tact emma everywhere.
and thx for your suggestion about hotshot.
yep, but take into account the fact that u must be facing a lot of scrapper wolverine at ur level, along with BSQS, and yeah against hotshot, nightcrawler and omega are ideal for afk as omega takes two turns, but nightcrawler bamfs away and protect not removable, so use nightcrawler, i personally tried infiltrator kitty against emma and mags, better than scrapper, just make sure u finish off scrapper wolverine first.

[salva893]

a quick question: what's her follow-up attack? L1, L2 or L6?

Her follow up attack is level 6, shadow kick which applies exposed.

[PunyHuman]

Her follow up attack is level 6, shadow kick which applies exposed.
thanks, was hoping it would be her L2 though x)

[salva893]

thanks, was hoping it would be her L2 though x)
that would be good, but it would make her OP and like mockingbird she would be nerfed to oblivion which would be bad as kitty is one of my favourite characters

[Tricksta]

kitty is still very fun to use regardless

[Cherry Needle]

With all this tech weapons and mechanical heroes, they should add her ability to disrupt electric systems, her attacks should apply obsolete technology and short circuit (to mechanical targets). Her alt should have a Selective Phasing passive, allowing her to attack without losing her phased buff until it runs out.

[Namikaze116]

With all this tech weapons and mechanical heroes, they should add her ability to disrupt electric systems, her attacks should apply obsolete technology and short circuit (to mechanical targets). Her alt should have a Selective Phasing passive, allowing her to attack without losing her phased buff until it runs out.This would be pretty cool.

[BlackFlagg]

Seems like you want to get the most bang possible out of her for the initial rouns where she is phased, so ISO wise I'm thinking just go full violent?

[Agent Leonhard]

^ Pretty much, I save gold and just use 5 Strong Iso's with 3 Forceful for some minor Defense for when she is unphased/psychic attacks and for a little accuracy to help make sure her attacks hits. But if you have the gold, 8 Violent's would be a good option.

[BlackFlagg]

^ Pretty much, I save gold and just use 5 Strong Iso's with 3 Forceful for some minor Defense for when she is unphased/psychic attacks and for a little accuracy to help make sure her attacks hits. But if you have the gold, 8 Violent's would be a good option. I used the silver bought violents.

[staronahill]

I'm a big Kitty fan!! I hope they give her another skin soon in season 2

[Loup Garou]

I'm a big Kitty fan!! I hope they give her another skin soon in season 2
Hope they give her a Katana and explore her ninja skills!

[Amodose]

Wish i would've leveled her up to 12 before 12.2 now she'll be stuck at lv 9 forever or until season 2 starts

[Father_Jerusalem]

So now that 12.2 has come out, I've gone and bought Kitty, as has, I'm sure, everyone in the game by now.

Given that I have an abundance of CPs, and am concentrating on leveling the heroes I have currently to 12 before buying the... 6 or so I'm missing, I have decided to reward Kitty for her faithful service as a deploy monkey with a new outfit.

My question is: Which class? Infiltrator just seems like asking to be murdered in PVP, but I have no interest in using her FOR PVP.

I also currently have every Scrapper in the game, save Shatterstar so I don't know that I NEED one more... but that Scrapper bonus IS nice...

Anyway. Any advice would be, by me, appreciated.

[fargomonkey]

If you aren't going to use her for PVP, then why worry about her possibly dying in her infiltrator alt, or getting the scrapper bonus?
Neither of those things affect PVE as you shouldn't ever face something in PVE that would kill her, and the bonus doesn't matter.

For PVP though, even though there are some awesome scrappers out there, I'd still use infiltrator, and I'll tell you why.
First, you REALLY want that counter with her! You REALLY do. Her infiltrator counter is what makes her so deadly!
Second, so long as she's phased, scrappers can do whatever they want, they're not hitting her anyway, so what you really have with her is a sort of (metaphorically) chess piece like a pawn which you can use to take out a knight or even a queen with before she dies. (Does that make sense to you?)
Third, everyone and their dog is using tacticians right now, meaning you will nearly always get the chance to get your counter up, so when they try to hit you while phased (as the foolish AI is prone to doing LOL!) you will hit them back HARD.

For clarity sake, what I meant by the chess reference is, the way that I've found she works best is, you know that once she's no longer phased, she won't last long, because her defense no matter how you ISO her will never be that great, so you use her while she's phased to take out one or two of the opposing teams most important pieces to their strategy. Take out Magneto, Emma, or Grey Black Widow, if they are on the team. Take out the Agent if the team you are facing is going to be primarily attacking with the agent, etc...
Whatever the opposing team is designed to do can quickly be undone by her before she herself gets taken out.
Again,using her is like trading a pawn for a knight or queen in chess, (or if you're lucky or smart, maybe both), TOTALLY worth it, and she can easily be the difference between a win or a loss. But that really works best when she's a infiltrator with her counter active.

[RDK006]

Did they just nerf Kitty? She'd been calling for Lockheed and proc'ing Shadow Strike like crazy... until today. Now she's all squishy and doing hardly any damage at all.

[Namikaze116]

Did they just nerf Kitty? She'd been calling for Lockheed and proc'ing Shadow Strike like crazy... until today. Now she's all squishy and doing hardly any damage at all.Guessing this is PvP related which means you have to remember her damage varies according to who she faces.

[Frostsiege]

With all this tech weapons and mechanical heroes, they should add her ability to disrupt electric systems, her attacks should apply obsolete technology and short circuit (to mechanical targets). Her alt should have a Selective Phasing passive, allowing her to attack without losing her phased buff until it runs out.

Agree with this. Makes more sense with regards to her Phasing ability.

She's awesome in PVP for low to mid ratings 1100 to 1400. In higher ratings, she dies out easily.

Today, I had an AI PVP use a phased 'alt Inf Kitty' to 1-shot kill my Rescue in the 2nd round. Damage was 23K.
Kitty was Lvl 10 with 1 war frenzy. No Combat reflexes on when she 1-shot Rescue.

It seems like she has a 60% chance of being awesome & devastating for the first 2 rounds, at least. If she has a team mate like Inf WC Phoenix who puts Mind Link on her,
in the 1st round...the opposing team's strategies can go down hill. Unless opposing team has removal buffs ability that's unused yet.

I'm beginning to like this Pryde of the X-Men.

[Amodose]

I didn't care for her that much until i got her Alt costume now i love her

[Namikaze116]

I didn't care for her that much until i got her Alt costume now i love herYeah,she's pretty great with her alt. Which one did you get? I was always interested in how she'd be as a scrapper,but since I got GR I kinda just lost interest in getting her scrapper alt.

[Butagaz]

It seems like she has a 60% chance of being awesome & devastating for the first 2 rounds, at least. If she has a team mate like Inf WC Phoenix who puts Mind Link on her,
in the 1st round...the opposing team's strategies can go down hill. Unless opposing team has removal buffs ability that's unused yet.

I'm beginning to like this Pryde of the X-Men.

Yep. Usually, when i see a Kitty Pryde, i know someone on my team is gonna be one-shotted (she crits when going out of phase + additionnal damage + WA = one shot whatever my armory is)
It's not a rant, i like that. It's pretty much all-in in the first two rounds. After, she becomes less than average.
Bonus: her "strike from the shadow" can be angolob'd, but not her phased thing. Besides, one of her attacks doesn't remove phased.

[Creed0831]

When attacking "Strike from the Shadows" no longer triggers for her Shadowcat Costume. Anyone else have this issue?

[Wone]

When attacking "Strike from the Shadows" no longer triggers for her Shadowcat Costume. Anyone else have this issue?
Rescue can remove this ability, were you fighting her?

[Nickolas086]

She just okay for PVE, but she not that powerful where she can take out an enemy with one full blow. I got her because I already have Colossus when I first started playing the game and I like playing them together for nostalgia.

[Loup Garou]

She just okay for PVE, but she not that powerful where she can take out an enemy with one full blow. I got her because I already have Colossus when I first started playing the game and I like playing them together for nostalgia.
Use her default with his Phoenix 5.
http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/images/games/WolverineXmen14.jpg

[Namikaze116]

Use her default with his Phoenix 5.
http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/images/games/WolverineXmen14.jpgDon't have his P5 suit, so probably if it makes a return.

[Loup Garou]

Don't have his P5 suit, so probably if it makes a return.
Well after they nerfed it it wasn't so awesome. It used to be crazy on PVP. You couldn't do any significant damage cause it cuts it down and even if you did the target that had Guardian Force proced on him would just heal. Both HP & SP.

[Sevanhya]

If there is too much going on, her phased attacks can be forgotten.

I play her regularly and if the opposing Agent is using Hot Shot and is a Tactician:
Damage to all except her
Armor Melt to all bu her
Burning to all but her
Stun Checks
Warbringer effects
Pheonix retaliates
Agent retaliates
Sometimes Shadowcat is forgotten with all of the checks going on...

I have also seen her not get her retaliation every now and then when Quicksilver does his Whirlwind Vortex.

I think the stun effects tends to mess with her retaliation. Even though she is not stunned.

[Loup Garou]

If there is too much going on, her phased attacks can be forgotten.

I play her regularly and if the opposing Agent is using Hot Shot and is a Tactician:
Damage to all except her
Armor Melt to all bu her
Burning to all but her
Stun Checks
Warbringer effects
Pheonix retaliates
Agent retaliates
Sometimes Shadowcat is forgotten with all of the checks going on...

I have also seen her not get her retaliation every now and then when Quicksilver does his Whirlwind Vortex.

I think the stun effects tends to mess with her retaliation. Even though she is not stunned.
Don't forget that Stealthy attacks don't trigger counters. Can't remember if Quicksilver's attacks are or not.